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				Comment on Laneway Revitalisation Swarm by Andrew Outhwaite				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2017/03/31/laneway-revitalisation-swarm/#comment-9006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Outhwaite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2017 04:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a wonderful event, creative process and clear outcomes. I&#039;m so excited that there&#039;s the community ethos, open-minded developers and skilful facilitators such that this can occur. It&#039;s really significantly different from many other communities, where place-making consultants are brought in at expense, where there&#039;s an adversarial process, or where are ideas but no interest or capability to turn them intro reality. Well done, all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a wonderful event, creative process and clear outcomes. I&#8217;m so excited that there&#8217;s the community ethos, open-minded developers and skilful facilitators such that this can occur. It&#8217;s really significantly different from many other communities, where place-making consultants are brought in at expense, where there&#8217;s an adversarial process, or where are ideas but no interest or capability to turn them intro reality. Well done, all.</p>
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				Comment on Innovators to bring fine dining to Geraldton by Greg				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2016/06/17/innovators-bring-fine-dining-geraldton/#comment-7046</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2016 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a fabulous initiative. Congratulations Pam Sherlock and Emma Jackson!
The region has a vast array of food products from the sea and land with many producers focused on sustainable production and harvest methods.  Together with the high class chefs in town and Durack training facility, Geraldton presents a great opportunity to become a &#039;sustainable food capital&#039; of WA.
Greg Brennan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fabulous initiative. Congratulations Pam Sherlock and Emma Jackson!<br />
The region has a vast array of food products from the sea and land with many producers focused on sustainable production and harvest methods.  Together with the high class chefs in town and Durack training facility, Geraldton presents a great opportunity to become a &#8216;sustainable food capital&#8217; of WA.<br />
Greg Brennan</p>
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				Comment on ACDC joins CreativeHub by Katarina Smelikova				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2016/05/11/acdc-joins-creativehub/#comment-6471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katarina Smelikova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2016 12:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great news! The West End is getting more appealing every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news! The West End is getting more appealing every day.</p>
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				Comment on Changes to Pollinators and CityHive services by Catherine				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2015/03/06/changes-to-services/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes I agree on the Supporter level of membership as per Steve&#039;s suggestion above. 
Perhaps also a Subscriber rate? Just for your newsletter? You take a lot of time to collate this information saving users of this resource the need to do it for themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I agree on the Supporter level of membership as per Steve&#8217;s suggestion above.<br />
Perhaps also a Subscriber rate? Just for your newsletter? You take a lot of time to collate this information saving users of this resource the need to do it for themselves.</p>
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				Comment on Changes to Pollinators and CityHive services by Paul Dyer				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2015/03/06/changes-to-services/#comment-2603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2015 12:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great suggestion Steve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great suggestion Steve.</p>
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				Comment on Changes to Pollinators and CityHive services by Community Support				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2015/03/06/changes-to-services/#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Community Support]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2015 09:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Steve, thanks for your comments and thought you&#039;ve put into how this could work for all i.e. win-win-win-win. I&#039;ll ensure the Board is aware of this, and can address it in their deliberations. Cheers, Andrew (Community Support role).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve, thanks for your comments and thought you&#8217;ve put into how this could work for all i.e. win-win-win-win. I&#8217;ll ensure the Board is aware of this, and can address it in their deliberations. Cheers, Andrew (Community Support role).</p>
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				Comment on Changes to Pollinators and CityHive services by Steve Davidson				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2015/03/06/changes-to-services/#comment-2587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2015 05:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As much I understand the need to cover costs for services it will cost a minimum of $165 and therefore fringe member numbers will drop away.
I would like to suggest the concept of Associate membership for those who are supporters rather than frequent users, there entitlements would be less than full members (ie less or no discounts on hire spaces, events)  
 they will still be well informed of all activities and welcome to attend any launches and selected events 
in general these are the people that want to support what pollinators are all about but rarely has use or need services.
I think that individuals would accept something modest perhaps $50 just to be supporter as an associate member but because they don&#039;t need and are not going to use the range of services are going to fall of your radar when subscriptions are  $165 I would like you to consider the value of having a broad supporter base and the benefits both financial and in networks of the associate membership concept 
I believe Associate membership will both retain the less active members who will baulk at the increase and also increase network numbers, in both cases it has to be a win. anyone who then needs the full membership will upgrade. 
The increased membership cost will very likely limit the membership numbers and possibly drop off somewhat whereas associate membership could offer greatly increasing the numbers in the network]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much I understand the need to cover costs for services it will cost a minimum of $165 and therefore fringe member numbers will drop away.<br />
I would like to suggest the concept of Associate membership for those who are supporters rather than frequent users, there entitlements would be less than full members (ie less or no discounts on hire spaces, events)<br />
 they will still be well informed of all activities and welcome to attend any launches and selected events<br />
in general these are the people that want to support what pollinators are all about but rarely has use or need services.<br />
I think that individuals would accept something modest perhaps $50 just to be supporter as an associate member but because they don&#8217;t need and are not going to use the range of services are going to fall of your radar when subscriptions are  $165 I would like you to consider the value of having a broad supporter base and the benefits both financial and in networks of the associate membership concept<br />
I believe Associate membership will both retain the less active members who will baulk at the increase and also increase network numbers, in both cases it has to be a win. anyone who then needs the full membership will upgrade.<br />
The increased membership cost will very likely limit the membership numbers and possibly drop off somewhat whereas associate membership could offer greatly increasing the numbers in the network</p>
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				Comment on 4 steps to design &#038; prototype a better business model by Andrew Outhwaite				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2013/10/18/4-steps-better-business-model/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Outhwaite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 04:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love your take on the business model - model business ethos and approach, Dave. Reminds me of some things Yunus said last time I heard him talk, and the similarities and distinctions between &#039;businesses&#039; (purpose is profit) to &#039;social business&#039; (profit to fulfil their social purpose).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your take on the business model &#8211; model business ethos and approach, Dave. Reminds me of some things Yunus said last time I heard him talk, and the similarities and distinctions between &#8216;businesses&#8217; (purpose is profit) to &#8216;social business&#8217; (profit to fulfil their social purpose).</p>
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				Comment on 4 steps to design &#038; prototype a better business model by Dave Clare				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2013/10/18/4-steps-better-business-model/#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Clare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 06:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Business Model Canvas is the most simplest and effective business planning tool I have seen. It is the perfect tool to use once you have clearly identified your vision, mission (purpose and values. Leaders focus on those things first. Leaders seek to build a model business and managers work on the business model.
http://www.daveclare.com/leadership/business-model-model-business/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Business Model Canvas is the most simplest and effective business planning tool I have seen. It is the perfect tool to use once you have clearly identified your vision, mission (purpose and values. Leaders focus on those things first. Leaders seek to build a model business and managers work on the business model.<br />
<a href="http://www.daveclare.com/leadership/business-model-model-business/" rel="nofollow">http://www.daveclare.com/leadership/business-model-model-business/</a></p>
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				Comment on 4 steps to design &#038; prototype a better business model by Samille Mitchell				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2013/10/18/4-steps-better-business-model/#comment-1424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samille Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 06:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds impressive. Particularly like the idea of approaching it from different perspectives. Can&#039;t wait to learn more about it on Monday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds impressive. Particularly like the idea of approaching it from different perspectives. Can&#8217;t wait to learn more about it on Monday.</p>
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				Comment on Limited office space available in West End of CBD by Private office space available at CityHive - Everything Geraldton				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2014/06/11/office-space-available/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Private office space available at CityHive - Everything Geraldton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] More information about CityHive is online: http://pollinators.org.au/city-hive/ with specific details of private offices also posted online: http://pollinators.org.au/2014/06/11/office-space-available/ [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] More information about CityHive is online: http://pollinators.org.au/city-hive/ with specific details of private offices also posted online: http://pollinators.org.au/2014/06/11/office-space-available/ [&#8230;]</p>
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				Comment on Pollinators submission to CGG re: CBD incentives by Julian Canny				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2014/05/12/pollinators-submission-cgg-re-cbd-incentives/#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julian Canny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2014 14:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pollinators.org.au/?p=2391#comment-558</guid>
					<description><![CDATA[COOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COOL</p>
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				Comment on Julian Canny — A funny approach to growing the arts by Jen Hanrahan				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2014/05/09/julian-canny-comedy-emporium/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen Hanrahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 03:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://pollinators.org.au/?p=2341#comment-444</guid>
					<description><![CDATA[Love your work Julian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your work Julian!</p>
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				Comment on A SINGLE idea to help Council build a better Geraldton by Andrew Outhwaite				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2013/11/08/single-idea-build-better-city/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Outhwaite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 05:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Ken, 

thanks for this clarification. Sounds great. I&#039;m very glad to to hear that capital works recommendations from ALL the strategies (biodiversity, bike, waste, sporting, water, climate, vibrancy etc. etc.) have ALL been incorporated into this process. 

If what you say is true, then I definitely had misunderstood. The misunderstanding is perhaps part just not understanding what&#039;s been communicated directly, but also on recent conversations with CGG staff or projects where action could / should have been aligned with strategies, but was being done without any apparent knowledge of them (the strategies). It seems many others who CGG would probably count as amongst the &#039;most engaged&#039; in this whole 2029 and Beyond process, had also misunderstood. Perhaps that misunderstanding is some feedback for how this process is being explained and communicated?

I&#039;ll share what you&#039;ve clarified with our members, readers and anyone who asks.

Thanks for your ongoing open-ness and willingness to engage and explain, and willingness to learn together in this.

I&#039;m always open to any invitation to support what you&#039;re working on, and could safely say the same of many Pollinators members and readers.

Thankyou,

Andrew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken, </p>
<p>thanks for this clarification. Sounds great. I&#8217;m very glad to to hear that capital works recommendations from ALL the strategies (biodiversity, bike, waste, sporting, water, climate, vibrancy etc. etc.) have ALL been incorporated into this process. </p>
<p>If what you say is true, then I definitely had misunderstood. The misunderstanding is perhaps part just not understanding what&#8217;s been communicated directly, but also on recent conversations with CGG staff or projects where action could / should have been aligned with strategies, but was being done without any apparent knowledge of them (the strategies). It seems many others who CGG would probably count as amongst the &#8216;most engaged&#8217; in this whole 2029 and Beyond process, had also misunderstood. Perhaps that misunderstanding is some feedback for how this process is being explained and communicated?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll share what you&#8217;ve clarified with our members, readers and anyone who asks.</p>
<p>Thanks for your ongoing open-ness and willingness to engage and explain, and willingness to learn together in this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always open to any invitation to support what you&#8217;re working on, and could safely say the same of many Pollinators members and readers.</p>
<p>Thankyou,</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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				Comment on A SINGLE idea to help Council build a better Geraldton by Andrew Outhwaite				</title>
				<link>https://pollinators.org.au/2013/11/08/single-idea-build-better-city/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Outhwaite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello #cggchanges team, 

I appreciate your response and explanation of the theory and practice of what you are doing. It&#039;s articulate, insightful, coherent and valuable. What you&#039;re doing, broadly, is remarkable, deservingly-awarded, complex and sounds like it is very-likely going to work.

A couple of things in response (from Andrew, as I can no longer say this response is on behalf of our members)

1. What you&#039;ve explained here hasn&#039;t been explained that well publicly in other forums, not in any follow-up to those that were previously (and still are) engaged in 2029 and Beyond. Sounds like you are starting to do more of that communication and explanation now, so look forward to receiving more information and updates we can share with our members and readers. [For those reading this who aren&#039;t familiar, there&#039;s a pretty good explanation of what&#039;s happening and why, here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/news/city-rings-changes&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/news/city-rings-changes&lt;/a&gt; and explained in detail here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/%23ChangesCGG_0.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/%23ChangesCGG_0.pdf&lt;/a&gt; ]

2. You seem to doubt the level of engagement you already have, and doubt legitimacy of the strategies you already have and say it&#039;s less than ideal that they were developed in isolation. That may be true, but they are 90% good, were developed with participation of 90% of those who really have a stake or interest in their implementation, and yet remain 90% unimplemented and seem to remain unknown to 90% of Council staff (and Geraldton citizens). My concern (personally) is that where the #cggchangescommunity or 2029 and Beyond &#039;theory of change&#039; will fail is not in the doing of democracy and development of strategies, rather 1) systematic implementation and critical reflection on the learnings through implementation, 2) engagement with partner organisations who are engaged and who could/would take the lead on the $487 million of projects that Council will/can not.

Those concerns are based on observation and experience of the implementation of strategies since 2011 and communication from and with Council that suggests the loop (or cycle) between planning, doing, and learning is not being completed nor being done in partnership because your attention is on public perception and deliberative processes rather than on reflection on our doing together. Continued resourcing and attention on &#039;perfection of public participation and PR&#039; or &#039;episodic demonstration of deliberative democracy&#039; may come at the cost of &#039;practical action and practicing learning, in partnership&#039;.

To rephrase your closing comment using these distinctions, as a way to try and translate my framing into yours: 

&quot;The City wants to continue to throw rocks into the pond of deliberative democracy and make the ripples of deliberation continue to expand the knowledge and interest of Geraldton’s residents.&quot; 

vs 

&quot;The city &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; leading its partners and community in deliberating, act and learn together and make ripples of their success will continue to expand to future generations though creating a creative city-region with a prosperous, diverse and sustainable community.&quot;

Not a perfect re-write, but I&#039;m trying to suggest that the City needn&#039;t think of itself separate to its citizens (we&#039;re both the &#039;subject&#039; in this sentence, and you already had thousands of us &#039;with you&#039; if only you&#039;d keep us informed), we&#039;re growing something ground up locally &lt;em&gt;together &lt;/em&gt;(not throwing rocks &lt;em&gt;at&lt;/em&gt; something separate to us, from afar), and the object of attention and purpose is the community vision (not deliberative process itself).

Ok, let&#039;s take the learnings from this exchange, continue the dialogue and get back to work!

Sincerely,

Andrew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello #cggchanges team, </p>
<p>I appreciate your response and explanation of the theory and practice of what you are doing. It&#8217;s articulate, insightful, coherent and valuable. What you&#8217;re doing, broadly, is remarkable, deservingly-awarded, complex and sounds like it is very-likely going to work.</p>
<p>A couple of things in response (from Andrew, as I can no longer say this response is on behalf of our members)</p>
<p>1. What you&#8217;ve explained here hasn&#8217;t been explained that well publicly in other forums, not in any follow-up to those that were previously (and still are) engaged in 2029 and Beyond. Sounds like you are starting to do more of that communication and explanation now, so look forward to receiving more information and updates we can share with our members and readers. [For those reading this who aren&#8217;t familiar, there&#8217;s a pretty good explanation of what&#8217;s happening and why, here: <a href="http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/news/city-rings-changes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/news/city-rings-changes</a> and explained in detail here: <a href="http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/%23ChangesCGG_0.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cgg.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/%23ChangesCGG_0.pdf</a> ]</p>
<p>2. You seem to doubt the level of engagement you already have, and doubt legitimacy of the strategies you already have and say it&#8217;s less than ideal that they were developed in isolation. That may be true, but they are 90% good, were developed with participation of 90% of those who really have a stake or interest in their implementation, and yet remain 90% unimplemented and seem to remain unknown to 90% of Council staff (and Geraldton citizens). My concern (personally) is that where the #cggchangescommunity or 2029 and Beyond &#8216;theory of change&#8217; will fail is not in the doing of democracy and development of strategies, rather 1) systematic implementation and critical reflection on the learnings through implementation, 2) engagement with partner organisations who are engaged and who could/would take the lead on the $487 million of projects that Council will/can not.</p>
<p>Those concerns are based on observation and experience of the implementation of strategies since 2011 and communication from and with Council that suggests the loop (or cycle) between planning, doing, and learning is not being completed nor being done in partnership because your attention is on public perception and deliberative processes rather than on reflection on our doing together. Continued resourcing and attention on &#8216;perfection of public participation and PR&#8217; or &#8216;episodic demonstration of deliberative democracy&#8217; may come at the cost of &#8216;practical action and practicing learning, in partnership&#8217;.</p>
<p>To rephrase your closing comment using these distinctions, as a way to try and translate my framing into yours: </p>
<p>&#8220;The City wants to continue to throw rocks into the pond of deliberative democracy and make the ripples of deliberation continue to expand the knowledge and interest of Geraldton’s residents.&#8221; </p>
<p>vs </p>
<p>&#8220;The city <em>is</em> leading its partners and community in deliberating, act and learn together and make ripples of their success will continue to expand to future generations though creating a creative city-region with a prosperous, diverse and sustainable community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not a perfect re-write, but I&#8217;m trying to suggest that the City needn&#8217;t think of itself separate to its citizens (we&#8217;re both the &#8216;subject&#8217; in this sentence, and you already had thousands of us &#8216;with you&#8217; if only you&#8217;d keep us informed), we&#8217;re growing something ground up locally <em>together </em>(not throwing rocks <em>at</em> something separate to us, from afar), and the object of attention and purpose is the community vision (not deliberative process itself).</p>
<p>Ok, let&#8217;s take the learnings from this exchange, continue the dialogue and get back to work!</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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